No Written Minutes: City of Littleton’s “Video” Minutes

Let’s say you want to know what city council members had to say about your favorite Littleton issue.  It used to be that you could go to the Bemis Library, speed read the City Council minutes, and quickly find out.

But written minutes no longer exist, and that’s a big loss to the public.  Now that same search will take you hours of watching a video of the Council meeting on the internet—once you find the link on the city website.  Sure you could fast-forward, but then you wouldn’t know what they’re saying.  So you’re stuck with hours of watching the whole meeting to find what you’re looking for.  Chances are that you will give up in frustration.  Who does this situation serve?

On March 18, 2014 city council passed an ordinance that added a new definition for the word minutes in our city code.  Minutes no longer refer to a written account of the business transacted by council or other quasi-judicial board in Littleton. “Minutes shall mean the video record of the city council or any of its boards or commissions.  If a video record is not taken of such meeting, due to malfunction or otherwise*, then the term “minutes” shall mean written minutes.”  (Ord. 8, Series 2014)  In other words, there are no written records to research unless you’re looking for a meeting that took place before April of 2014.

Now you have to own a computer, not be hearing impaired and have lots of time to navigate the city’s website looking for a particular meeting and then clicking on the video and enduring the endless task of searching for what you want to witness.  Sometimes the video is bad, sometimes the audio is bad and sometimes both the audio and video are bad!  Now settle in, wine helps, and hope you don’t fall asleep.  What you could have done in five minutes now takes you hours – literally – and that is if you know your way around the city’s website.  Most people don’t have the sort of time it takes – could that be the reason why the convenient and long-lived practice of written minutes was abandoned?

When council voted to change the definition of the word minutes it was done in order to save taxpayers money, which is laudable.  I love saving taxpayer’s money but not when one of the job responsibilities on the city clerk is “taking minutes for city council meetings.”  (from the city’s website) She isn’t fulfilling her responsibilities!  In this instance I would prefer that they not worry about paying for the city clerk to do her job and save the tax payer’s some time; after all time is money!

So instead of council approving written minutes – something they would have to read and verify that was an accurate representation of what happened they are “certifying” the minutes of the meeting – which means they are certifying a video record that they have not watched in its entirety but accepting the clerk’s certification.

What’s a Journal?

The City Charter also requires the city clerk to “keep a journal of council proceedings which shall be open to the public at all times, record all ordinances and resolutions in full authenticated by his signature and the seal of the city” (Sec. 31, City Charter)

On Jan. 5, 2016 Council Member Doug Clark moved to direct the staff to “prepare an ordinance on first reading to remove the definition of minutes in Section 1-3-2 of the City Code and produce written minutes for council meetings.”  He did not get a second.

That small change Clark suggested would mean that Debbie Brinkman and Randy Stein’s votes on the Santa Fe Urban Renewal Plan would show that they actually voted in favor but the Journal shows that they voted no. In fact, the Journal shows only one motion being made when a motion was made and then amended.  The vote on the main motion is missing!

This same Journal shows that Jerry Valdes and Peggy Cole voted in favor of the Santa Fe Urban Renewal modification when they have never voted yes on a single urban renewal plan.  Of course all of this would have been caught if the journals were subject to approval.

What Does the Municipal Records Retention Schedule Suggest?

A document called Municipal Records Retention Schedule by the Colorado State Archives Division provides direction in countless areas to municipalities on how to archive records.  Littleton adopted the Municipal Records Retention Schedule in 2008.  The document addresses council meeting minutes and video recordings as such:

Records Management Manual for Municipalities


Official record of the proceedings of the governing body and supporting documentation of a substantive nature such as exhibits referenced in the minutes.

Retention: Permanent, provided that routine material submitted at meetings may be destroyed after 2 years as long as summary description is included in the minutes [Important Note: Minutes of the governing body are considered to be essential municipal records, and the State Archives therefore recommends that the “record” copy be retained in paper format.]

And so we wonder, exactly what is gained by moving away from easily-accessible written minutes?  City Council said it was cost-savings.  But the city clerk is paid a salary, and taking away the responsibility of written minutes did not reduce the salary.  So no money actually was saved.

What was decreased isn’t cost but rather Council’s accountability to us citizens.   The videos are at  best a medium that makes it extremely tedious to review what they did.  At worst, the video quality is so poor that a record of what Council did is completely lost or the video just isn’t on the website.  The Journal is to back up the video, but information there, as we mentioned, can be completely wrong.

Could it be that—oddly enough—supposed technological advancement is a great way to hide from public scrutiny?  With council seemingly moving in a new direction, (i.e. unraveling urban renewal) perhaps citizens can look forward to the return of written minutes soon.

*The “otherwise” in the new definition of minutes can mean when the council prefers not be to televised as in the case when they interviewed applicants for boards and commissions.  There wasn’t a clerk in the meeting to take minutes and there wasn’t a video or an audio recording of either of the two meetings.  At the end of the second evening the council determined who they would be appointing to the boards and commissions but they did not record how each member voted because they did not call it voting; they called it polling – except when they called it voting and quickly corrected themselves to say they weren’t voting but polling.

(It should be noted that Councilman Clark walked out of the meeting due to his concern that the council was violating the City Charter that says decisions can only be made by motion, resolution or ordinance (Sec. 36, City Charter) and the “ayes and nays shall be taken upon the passage of all ordinances, resolutions and motions…..” (Sec.37 City Charter))


4 thoughts on “No Written Minutes: City of Littleton’s “Video” Minutes”

  1. I am not familiar with the old ways in which City Council conducted its business. I have a few questions about this process that you may be able to address. Were City Council minutes, prior to their being video recorded, ever taken by a court reporter? By that I mean, did prior minutes capture, word for word, everything said during a City Council meeting? If not, were minutes simply concise summaries of items that arose during a meeting? Did City Council spend their precious time reading draft minutes, revising them to their liking and finally approving them? Video/audio recording would appear to increase completeness and accuracy at the expense of an observer’s convenience. That would seem to be a worthwhile trade-off for most people.


    1. Fred – City Council has always provided written minutes. The depth of what was reported has varied over time. The previous City Clerk produced very good minutes that would inform the reader of the thinking behind decisions that were made. The council made a determination a few years ago that “action minutes” were all that was needed so we saw the minutes not nearly as complete as before. However, the reader would still get a flavor of the discussion and thinking behind a decision. As far as video recording that has also varied over the years depending on whether the council wanted to fund Channel 8 or not. Channel 8 was dropped from use several years ago. Former council member Tom Mulvey lobbied long and hard to get Channel 8 returned to the air. He was successful. It was only in 2014 that the council voted to replace the written minutes with the video recording.

      Council did not, in the years I have observed, ever read the minutes prior to being approved. Each council member had the opportunity to offer a correction to the minutes prior to them being approved. As someone who has done a lot of research on past council actions I will attest to the fact that written minutes are far easier to research than watching a video. The video has to be certified as being correct and I am not sure how that is done. Is it watched by someone that then verifies that the quality is good and the video is complete? We know that council does not watch it to verify prior to their voting to approve. Again, as someone who has watched the videos they are not always the best quality and at times are just plain missing.

      You asked about a court reporter. There have been a few occasions, highly controversial issues, where a court reporter has been brought in to provide minutes of the pubic hearings.

      Bottom line – written minutes is what the State Archives suggest and written minutes will surely stand the test of time.


  2. I totally agree that there should be written notes for every meeting so that it is easier for anyone to look back “quickly” at what went on in the meeting. This includes City Council and all of the Boards and Commissions. Looking through hours of video is a huge waste of time and citizens have better things to do—oh maybe “someone” doesn’t want to make it easy. 🙂


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